I hadn't seen this thread before until I just found it searching my name.
You're welcome, Yan, and thanks to others who provided more links here!
in the course of studying the many falsehoods of jws, the subject of logical fallacies has come to my attention a number of times.
i largely ignored it as something in my opinion "too dry" to dive inito.. boy, was i wrong.. mad sweeney posted a link to a website explaining a number of fallacies in plain language (often with religious examples; wonder why .
once i started reading upon it, the wts use (or violation) of just about every fallacy from the list jumped at me as visible and distinct as black against orange.. thank you, mad for unknowingly giving me my new interest in the theory of logic and reasoning and further debunking the wts bs.. for the curious, here it is: http://www.logicalfallacies.info/.
I hadn't seen this thread before until I just found it searching my name.
You're welcome, Yan, and thanks to others who provided more links here!
although many ex-jehovah's witnesses know about the watchtower's secret 10 year affair with the united nations, the vast majority of jehovah's witnesses do not know.
on sunday september 11, 2011, we plan to let them know about it!
there was never a formal disclosure to jehovah's witnesses at meetings or in wt literature or letters telling the jw's about the affair.
I hate forgetting the compatibility button.
A friend in SC got permission from the property owner directly across from the KH parking lot entrance/exit to put up signs. Perfect location.
although many ex-jehovah's witnesses know about the watchtower's secret 10 year affair with the united nations, the vast majority of jehovah's witnesses do not know.
on sunday september 11, 2011, we plan to let them know about it!
there was never a formal disclosure to jehovah's witnesses at meetings or in wt literature or letters telling the jw's about the affair.
As mentioned, there is NO REFORMATION that makes the lies true.
i just spoke to a witness friend (has been a witness 25+ years), who said that the elders in her congregation told her that witnesses had better be prepared to begin going door to door, not to announce "good news", but to denounce people who refuse to accept "the trvth".
has anyone else heard about this?
i thought it was a joke at first, but she said no, that's where the elders told her things were headed.
i was just thinking ...you remember that tract from i think 2007? said "the end of false religion is near"?
It was from 2006, half a decade ago and counting. "Soon" and "near" don't mean what they think they mean.
i searched the indexes of jwn and found a number of older threads on the subject of class action lawsuits against the wtbts for a number of things such as: fraud, breach of contract, emotional duress, pain and suffering, etc.
most of the threads are fairly old.
does anyone know if any serious attempts at this have ever been made by a qualified lawyer and/or firm?
What do you think the viability would be of a suit brought by a group of people who lost family members to the blood doctrine? Slightly better chances? Or still pretty much no chance? (this is of course assuming those bringing the suit have the money to pay for representation)
interesting as we are watching on the tv in the uk about how new york is having some areas evacuted.
wonder who is praying for the wt building gets flooded out by storm surge?.
If it hits them, they will say Satan controls the weather and attacked them.
If it misses them, they will say Jehovah controls the weather and protected them.
They have their bases covered.
The Borg tries to break up families but it doesn't always succeed.
Sept 10 Cult Free Radio will be on this topic.
the sokal affair.
the paper, transgressing the boundaries: towards a transformative hermeneutics of quantum gravity, was published in science wars in 1996. on the day of publication, sokal announced (in a different paper,) that the article was a hoax.
he said that social text was a pastiche of left-wing cant, fawning references, grandiose quotations, and outright nonsense.
I think if the point was being made by a non-theist, this thread could have become a good discussion about the strengths and weaknesses of the current system of research and publication. A basic research methods class will teach you that the system is flawed and that hoaxes get through occasionally and crap gets through regularly, but as has been mentioned the system of scientific inquiry is in place to KEEP QUESTIONING (unlike religious dogma) and eventually the crap gets exposed or simply left by the wayside kind of like Borg "old light."
Have there been any cases of science fraud that have killed as many people as, for example, the Watchtower blood doctrine has?
i just heard from his brother that he has passed.
several of you know that he has been fighting cancer for a while now.. oh, sac!
i am so very sorry you have left this world... rest in peace, joy, and light... your fight, suffering, and fears are put to rest.. strength and love to all who love you.. .
Sad to hear this. Thanks for letting us know, Baba. Condolences to his family.